The Words (Part 2) by A. Jade

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So there was one funny story that you were there for

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that I thought was really funny. And it may not be as funny to tell

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the story, but you're always talking about

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how you feel like everybody at work just

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hates you. Yeah. And so you and I

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were talking to some coworkers. I don't remember what

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we were talking about. It was me, you, and Eric,

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and maybe somebody else was there. And you were telling

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me that I'm just so interesting. Yeah. And Eric is like,

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you are really interesting, Nicole. And then you have your little

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outburst, like, everybody fucking thinks you're so interesting.

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Nobody says it about me. And then everybody just scattered.

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Rather than tell you you're interesting.

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They just said nothing and walked away. Yeah. I'm telling you,

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I don't. It's so funny because I think you are so interesting. Sure.

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I only collect interesting people, so I think it's hilarious.

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Yeah. I think you're more interesting than me. You do?

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I don't. Yeah. I don't think I'm very interesting either. Maybe I

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need to think that I'm interesting in order for other people to think that I'm

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interesting. Yeah. But I just. Just. I think

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what I don't understand is, like, why nobody likes me. I'm so likable. And it's

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so funny because I don't. I'm not very nice. I don't know

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why a lot of them like me. Yeah. They're eager

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for you. Don't seek out their attention. Yeah.

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Well, maybe I'll stop seeking out people's attention and see if that makes them like

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me more. Maybe it's like I'm like, if I become the forbidden fruit.

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Sure. You know? Yeah. Like, they're so eager to please me.

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Yeah. The thing is, is I just, like, don't have it in me.

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I think people think that I'm, like, not for real. That's a

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very, very common. Yes. I thought that. Yeah.

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Everybody always thinks that. And I really. This is just who I am. Yeah.

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I don't have any control over it. What I love. I don't

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have an internal monologue. I don't even have the capacity to,

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like, plan something out, to, like, make somebody.

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I. I don't even. I just. I don't have it in me. So I

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could try. Yeah. I could try to be aloof,

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but I just would be so terrible at it.

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Within three hours, I would be on the line, like, somebody talk to me,

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my friend. Meanwhile, people are messaging me. Come out on the line and talk to

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me. Yeah, I know. It's so

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funny. Oh, there was something funny I was going to tell

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you too, because I obviously obsessively listen to our episodes,

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and there's one episode I made myself

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cringe. I don't even like to listen back to it because I

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say her juices. Sure. And just listen

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back to it and I call it juices. I'm like, oh, I know.

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By my use of juices to describe

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her. Would it make you less icked out if I told you I've literally

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never even noticed it? The thing is, is, like, I'm still licked

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out. I have to edit them. So if something icks me

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out, I edit it out. I just will cut it. And there

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have been multiple times where I was like.

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I know. And it's something I wouldn't say in real life. So why

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I said it. Well, because I think in that book they referred to

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it as that, didn't they? I still. So that's

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your. Like, that gives you the ick thing.

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There is. There was a thread on. In one of my Facebook groups

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where they talked about. One of the ones that came up a lot was Hilt.

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What is hilt? Like, he, like, pushed himself into

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me. Yeah. Yeah. And apparently, like, people don't.

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That's interesting. I know. And I've never.

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Yeah. None of it bothers me. I think you have

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to get creative. If you called it the same thing all the time, I'd be

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bored. So just like our conversation of. What was it?

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Bean. Yes. Rub real and bean bank.

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Yes. I do think that bean bank is gross, but.

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And Pagel was texting me because she.

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She's like, what are you guys even talking about? Yeah. And I was like,

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oh, you know what's like. Like your spank bank. Have you

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ever heard anything like. That was a common one in the 90s. Yeah. And she's

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like, I literally had to Google because I didn't know what that meant. She sent

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me a definition. It is a noun. Spank bank.

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Plural. Spank banks. A mental stock

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of images or fantasies brought to mind when masturbating.

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Yeah. That is just the definition. That's.

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Honestly, Webster. Good job. Couldn't do any better.

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Yeah. Whoever wrote that. Yeah. But it's not.

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I don't. Only men spank it. Yes.

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Women don't spank it. So that's why rub real makes more sense.

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Yeah. Now I have to figure out where I heard rub real from.

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You do, because I. You don't think you made it up? I don't think

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I did. And I can't identify. I Googled Rub

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reel and bean bank. And they are both in the urban dictionary,

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so. So somewhere along where along the lines I heard

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that. I just. I wish I could give credit where credit

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is due. Sorry about that. Yeah.

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Whoever you're stealing credit from.

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Not. Yeah. Well,

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we're back. We're back. Part two. For part two,

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I'm Amanda. I'm Nicole. And we are bookslets.

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We read, recap and review smutty books. Let us help you decide

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if that book should stay on your tbr.

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What are we reading today? We are continuing

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with the words by Ashley Jade. Yes.

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And just to recap, this is a 700 page book,

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so we have opted to put it into two parts.

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Same trigger warnings apply as the last book.

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So last week we left off with really, in essence,

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Lennon breaking things off with George. Yes. Even though they

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weren't even really together. No. Len, George is one of

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those men that thinks that he's a nice

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guy. Yes. Yes. He's a nice guy. Women owe him

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something because he's nice to Lennon. She should have sex

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with them. Makes it very clear, like the whole book. He just wants to have

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sex with her. Yeah. And he's so attracted to her. Yeah. And so does Phoenix

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for some reason. Doesn't bother me with Phoenix. Right.

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Well, I think too, there's a little bit of

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an essence to George of like,

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almost like he thinks, like, he's doing the Lennon. Lennon the favorite.

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He is attracted to her, but I. Think he still kind of thinks of her

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as a fat girl. Yeah. And he's giving this fat girl attention. Yeah,

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absolutely. I just hated him. We're basically

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done with him now. I don't care. And in amongst all of

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this, Phoenix has proclaimed that he is going to

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start to pursue things with Lennon, which makes Nicole

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just love it. Yeah, he.

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Yeah, I. And I do like when we have these, like, I guess just

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broken, closed off men. Yeah. Who have a soft

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spot for this girl. It's a trope, I think I

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like. Sure. Yeah. And he's so

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obsessed with her. Yeah. So obsessed with her. I generally

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like the idea of being somebody's favorite person, as we

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just opened this podcast with. I'm nobody's favorite person.

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So I do really, really like the idea of being somebody's

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favorite person. So I can understand that.

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We are sort of trying to navigate at this point in the

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book what pursuing this looks like.

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And to Phoenix, it looks like a relationship. He's.

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He's all in. He thinks now that. And it's. It's so

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funny because it Is such a man thing. Yeah. He for some reason feels like

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he's been the one that's been. They're not together because

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of him. So he's like,

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I've now declared. Yes. That we're

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pursuing this. We are now in a relationship. Yeah. You sleep

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in my bed. Yeah. We are together. And Lennon

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is. Lennon is like, tell me that you're pursuing

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this. I'm not over it. Right. I came here on a

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mission. Screw you. Mission is not complete. Right.

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So. No. And I think too, she kind of

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sees. I don't know if now, but I think originally she saw maybe

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Phoenix falling for her as a way to get back at him.

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Sure. I don't think that's her, like, mission right now.

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Sure. But I think in the beginning, which also would have been me.

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Yeah, sure. By any means necessary. And breaking your heart

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would be just great because he just stomped on poor little Lennon's heart.

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Oh, God. Yeah. Absolutely. We talked about

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this privately, like last week. But I

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think one of the things about this is that Phoenix is

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somebody who. His life revolves around his image.

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And he's very close to what the expectation or

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like, what the image should look like. And I think that he

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genuinely feels to some degree like he is

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doing Lennon the favor. Yeah. Because she doesn't fit

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the image. She's not the blonde,

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petite, thin, like. And Lennon,

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I think, knows her worth.

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And I gotta tell you, like,

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Lennon, big girls get laid.

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Yes. Like, I'm. We've had this conversation. Yes. Like,

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I just, I. It's so interesting to me. And it's

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not just men that think this. It's women as well. There are a lot of

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women are. Meaner to her in this book. There are multiple women in this book

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who are like, he must be a chubby chaser.

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Like, why is he into her? And like,

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at the end of the day, I. Again, midsize woman.

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I'm gonna tell you right now. I get checked out all the time. And that's

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not me in my head. I just sent Nicole a text message

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the other day. Client who was texting me,

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asking, basically saying that he was gonna take me out for coffee.

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Like, this guy's buying a million dollar home.

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And I. Yeah, like, it was. I was so

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taken aback, I didn't even know what to do. Like, and I think it's different

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too, because, like, for us, for. And we know women like

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this, their entire worth is tied to how

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men view them. Yes. It's tied to their appearance. They feel

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superior to plus size women

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because they're these thin fit girls that all the men want.

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And like, we know that's not.

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That's not the case. They don't realize that the only thing

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that that person probably likes about you is the shape of your body.

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Yes. And we have confidence and so much more

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to offer. Just like I think Lennon does. She's so much

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more than just, like, a hot body. Yeah. And that's not to say

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that thin women do not use that. Not at all. That's not what we're saying

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at all. I just think these women who are bullying Lennon,

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though, they. Their whole worth is tied to how. Many percent,

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and they cannot wrap their fucking head around the fact that he would be

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interested in somebody who is the size that Lennon is. And,

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like. Yeah. And again, like we talked about last week,

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Lennon is. I don't even think that Lennon is that big.

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No. So I think it's frustrating that they still consider her a fat girl,

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but at the same time, like, curves, though.

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To some women read fat. And Lennon is very,

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very curvy. She has, like, huge, great ass. It's Phoenix's

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favorite thing about her. Yeah. And that can. It does. Like, having curves

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does make you look bigger. Yeah. And I just think,

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again, like, to your point, talking about Phoenix, Phoenix really thinks

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that he is in charge here. And this is really the first time

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that he starts to realize, like, he's not really in charge.

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Just because he wants her does not mean he gets her.

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Yeah, absolutely. And I like. I like when women have the power.

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I do, too. I really love that she kind of stands

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her ground in, like, in a lot of this. Like, I mean, she's set boundaries

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multiple times throughout this whole book. I do still think that

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she gives more power to him than she should, because I think that there's still

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that element in her mind of that same thought process,

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of that same view and that same perspective of, like, Phoenix Walker

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would never be with somebody who looks like me. And so she gives up

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too much away. And I.

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Yeah, this whole dynamic is really interesting. Well, even this

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revenge thing that she has that does give that other person more power over

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you. So her still wanting

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to bring him down or still even holding on to

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how she used to feel is giving him more power than he deserves.

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And to be fair to her, too, they talk about this, but she,

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like, wants to have sex with him. Yeah. Like, she wants to do

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all of these things that he wants to do. So she's also

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trying to be fair to herself. She wants it. And why

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should she deny herself of that? But, yeah, their relationship dynamic

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gets really interesting from here on out. This is kind of the

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morning after. He'S declared pursuing her. Yeah, this is

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happening. Yeah. And she's kind of

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like, look at, sir, we have to be downstairs in 30 minutes.

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Like, I don't have time for your shit. Get dressed. Like, let's get out of

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here. He starts to go down on her. And Chandler,

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the manager, comes up and is, like, knocking on their door.

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Yeah. Like, while he's going down on her.

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And he's like, I haven't seen Phoenix anywhere.

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Have you seen him? And she's like, he's downstairs eating.

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He's literally. Literally eating. And then

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he's like, well, if he's downstairs eating, what are you doing? And she's

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like, I'm coming. It's very much giving American

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Pie, where her dad comes up to say, dinner's ready,

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and she yells, I'm coming. Yes. For a totally different reason.

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What I will say Lennon. Phoenix knows what he's doing. Lennon is

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very, very satisfied, which I actually think is really interesting.

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Because I feel like men like this are usually so selfish. They wouldn't know

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how to get me there to save their lives. Yeah. So I don't know.

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They end up making it downstairs by the skin of their teeth. They go

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to an event. They have some lunch. Apparently, they have sex in a car.

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We don't actually see that scene. We learn about it because they get into

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an elevator and Phoenix presses the emergency

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button and asks her if, shall we sense their last sexual

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encounter? Which obviously she hasn't. Because, like, sir, I've been with you all day around

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the city. And he's like, good, then my

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calm is still inside of you. I know. It's so

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hot. But, Nicole,

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I'm struggling with my emotions, because I do think that's so hot.

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Yeah. But also, like, just knowing that feeling

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so terrible. Yeah.

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I. I really like the scene a lot. He sticks his

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fingers inside of her and then pulls them out and then

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makes her lick them clean and before he starts to finger her.

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And, like, a lot of these scenes are really just

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Phoenix, like, making Lennon come.

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I mean, a lot of these scenes over and over and over again, are very

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much with her centered. And I

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love how much. Yes, this turns him on so much.

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And that. That's what I really do like about this book, too. Is he.

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Her having pleasure turns him on? Yeah,

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he talks about, like, owning her. Like, owning her body and.

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Yeah. Not in, like, a gross way. Well, they get interrupted

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because somehow Chandler, his fucking magic elevator

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button I don't know how. He somehow manages to get the elevator to

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open, even though they press the emergency button.

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And he confronts them both because he wants

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Phoenix to sign a contract that the record company has

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provided to him. He wants it signed by the next day.

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And the mood has been kind of ruined. And they're like, oh, it's like,

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sneak away. Because Chandler can't know that they're. It's part of her contract.

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She's still employed despite what they're doing.

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And they're fooling around on their way back to the room. And they get there,

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and there is a young girl.

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She's 15, almost 16. And Phoenix

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thinks that she's a stalker. Because she's in his room. In her.

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In their room? Yes. Yeah. And, like, Lennon is,

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like, trying to kind of get a, you know,

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grasp of the situation. And basically this girl says,

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I'm not a stalker. I'm your sister.

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Lennon convinces Phoenix not to call security just

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so that they can hear this girl out. Her name is Quinn.

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Quinn has some pretty solid evidence.

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She has his mom's maiden name.

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She has looks that are similar to his mother.

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And when they learn her name, that's when

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Lennon steps in and is like, we need to call security. Because in

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and amongst all of this chaos that's been happening, there have been issues

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with one of the band members, Memphis, who has been accused of

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impregnating two women, one a reality star

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and one a minor. And the minor is

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Quinn. So now Lennon is kind of like, you were right,

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I was wrong. And all of this kind

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of starts to boil over when they realize that Quinn is covered in

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bruises. So they get everybody else

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involved. They call Memphis in. They call Skyler in. They call the rest of the

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band in. They explain what's happening. Quinn explains that the reason

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that she accused Memphis of it was so that she could get access to

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Phoenix because he was the hardest one to get in front of.

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And she begs them not to call

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her parents because her dad is a

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cop. So she is basically saying, the cops can't

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do anything for me. My dad is a cop. And they agree that stay

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until they have done a DNA test. So this is the

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origin of Quinn. She also

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is a little bit of a plot device. I was just gonna say we could

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have done without her. Yeah. This book could have been so much shorter if we

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just didn't have this in here. It's not

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super necessary. There are a couple of pivotal things that

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happen that revolve around Quinn, which is the only reason that

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I included her information in the recap.

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But for the most part, most of the interactions,

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most of the activity, most of the things that are happening are really irrelevant.

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Quinn stays in Lennon's room. So now Lennon is forced to sleep in Phoenix's room.

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Like, things like that, that. I think it was forcing some

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of this plot. Yeah, absolutely.

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Now that Lennon and Phoenix are sharing a room, Lennon decides

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to read through Phoenix's contract.

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She reads it out loud to him, and Phoenix is unhappy with

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the terms that are laid out in the contract. And Lennon encourages him

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to talk to the label about it. And as they're kind

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of finishing this up, you know, Lennon is trying to

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get Phoenix to open up to her about some of his emotions.

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He does not want to do that. And Phoenix starts

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to spiral about Quinn and about his mom,

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because Phoenix has created a story in his mind

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about his mom. And so he is, I think,

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devastated to learn that she didn't leave

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him and then have a better life. She left him for more of the same.

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Yeah. And then brought another child into it who is growing

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up with seemingly the same type of life that Phoenix had. Yeah.

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And while he's spiraling about this,

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Lennon comforts him with a kiss that

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turns into her on top of him, and she

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crawls down his body, takes his dick out, and then

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teases him with her mouth, and then he fucks her mouth until

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he comes. And then my favorite part about this scene.

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I'm being facetious. No,

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no, I'm being facetious. He thanks

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her. Yeah. He says something like, wow, thanks a

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lot, pal. I really needed that. I just fucking can't

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do it. I just too. I don't know.

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I guess Phoenix is really broken. I don't know that I necessarily needed

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all of this. I. I felt the same way in

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pucking around. It was just too much communication. I didn't really

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need to see his evolution.

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Sure. You just wanted to see him fuck her. Yep.

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Okay. Well, I was looking for him. Okay.

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Yeah. I can't wait till we get to the ratings.

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The band takes her advice, they stand up

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to the record label, and they come up with a compromise,

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which is great. And as part of the

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compromise, Phoenix has given up one

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of the songs that he wanted to lead the album and

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has decided that he's going to end all of his sets with it in

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lieu of Lennon's song. And this

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appeases the fans and hopefully will show the record company

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what an important song it is to their album. That night,

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while he's in concert, Phoenix's mom shows up to

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bring Quinn home. And Lennon, in this

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moment, decides that she's going to protect Quinn until after the

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concert. So she's like, recording and

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this woman is just coming to take this girl and she knows nothing.

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She's like, absolutely not. Which I did love. I really

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appreciated that about Lennon in that scene. Phoenix comes

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out of his concert and he comes face to face with his mom.

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And it turns out that Quinn's father

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was the cop who responded to a domestic

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violence call when she was with Phoenix's

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dad. Which is so fucking

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gross. But also so realistic.

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Whole fucking realistic. Yeah.

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I. I literally

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know people like this. Yes. It.

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This is not some fucking, like, fictional scenario.

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This is the realest. And I just. Our system

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is so broken. I just can't deal with it. It makes.

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Reading it was, like, enraging.

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The reason that she ended up leaving Phoenix was because she got

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pregnant with Quinn by this cop and she needed to

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leave and she was hoping that she would be able to protect this

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other child. And then, of course, wasn't able to.

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And I think that's a very common. Yeah, it's a very common cycle

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to get caught up in. And Phoenix is like, I have all the money in

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the world. I can take you away from him. I can protect you. And he

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can tell that she doesn't want to. They describe it as her wanting

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to be the victim. Yeah. I don't like that description.

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I don't think that that's accurate. I do think that when you are in

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those types of relationships, it's almost fucking impossible to

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see past that relationship. Yeah. And I believe fully

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that mom very likely just could not see herself

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doing or being anything else while they're

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having this argument. Quinn, thinking that they're

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going to allow her mom to take her,

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runs away. And they can't find Quinn. They search

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for her. It does not go well. Lennon tries

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to comfort Phoenix. He is getting drunk.

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Yeah. And he throws a bottle

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at the wall, which nearly hits her in the

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face. Like a full bottle of whiskey. He throws Daniels. Like that would

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have seriously harmed her. Yeah.

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Did you feel this was necessary, this scene here?

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I, I. No. I think that it gives me more context

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for who Phoenix is and it makes me like him that much less. Yeah,

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I. I did not like this either. I don't think there

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was any reason to even include it. Well, I think that it comes

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back later when he goes home,

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like where his demons are and what his demons are

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and where they exist. But again, it gives us a better picture of

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the relationship dynamic between Phoenix and Lennon. Because Lennon

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is always saving him. Yeah. And I think it's a very

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interesting dynamic. Again, I said this at the top of the episode. I think it's

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a very interesting dynamic because I think a lot of men think that they are

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saving women. Men are always the heroes.

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And so, so, so often it's women who are.

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And I don't think that any woman should be saving

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any man. I don't think that it's Lennon's job to fix Phoenix.

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I hate that she finds herself in this position. But I think it is so

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common where women are doing all of the fucking work in

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these relationships. They are. And in this relationship,

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he. She is acting as his pacifier. Yes. She tells

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him in this scene, let me be your anchor.

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And I fucking hate that. I do, too. I,

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like, I want people to have somebody that they

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can rely on in hard times, but not at the expense

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of your own safety. And. And there's a couple more times where he's

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really fucking mean to her until they find Quinn.

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And it's so toxic, too, that this, like, she's basically

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saying, like, let me be everything. Yeah. And I

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mean, he. He does, like, rely on her. She's it for him.

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And I do. That's a little toxic, even for me.

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Yeah. I didn't. I didn't like this. And again, I. That's why

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I think we could have just done without Quinn. We. She. We didn't need

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her in this book. We would have saved. Yeah. All of this. And I

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don't want a reason to not like Phoenix. Sure. Like,

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don't. Like you're mad about it. Well, she starts kissing

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Phoenix and. Because Lennon is a thinker.

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Yeah. She is kind of like, you know, what's this thing

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with you never want anybody to kiss you? And he's like,

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well, I feel like it, you know, complicates things.

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And she's like, well, this is not supposed to be complicated, so maybe we

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should lay off the kissing. And. Yeah.

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And she takes kissing off the table. And I. The only reason that I

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didn't like this scene, aside from the fact that it

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feels like Lennon forcing him to complicate things.

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Yeah. Basically playing her cards here where she's like,

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well, we're not supposed to complicate it. So it's a way to hurt him.

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It really is. I didn't like it. No. I think

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it's a really fucking risky conversation after this guy just threw a fucking bottle at

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your head. So I don't know. I wouldn't be

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super eager to risk his wrath at this point,

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it obviously is a mood ruiner.

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And as she's kind of pulling away from him,

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he reveals to her that before

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his mom left him, she would tuck

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him in every single night and kiss him good night,

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and he didn't want to get hurt again. And this is where

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we learn that Lennon was actually his

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first kiss. Which brings us back to the Bellagio fountain

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scene, where what he wanted from her was

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a kiss which feels very. Like this guy could fucking kiss anybody.

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Yeah. Like, it feels like such a

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trivial thing. And in retrospect, this is the only person

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that he feels comfortable kissing. And it doesn't have to kiss anybody.

464
00:28:03,234 --> 00:28:06,132
Kiss. No, that's it. He doesn't let any of these girls. And we even see

465
00:28:06,156 --> 00:28:09,028
it in the beginning when a girl tries to kiss him and he's like,

466
00:28:09,084 --> 00:28:12,836
I don't do mouth stuff. Yeah. Yep. So Lennon

467
00:28:12,868 --> 00:28:15,920
puts kissing back on the table. I would as well.

468
00:28:16,460 --> 00:28:19,364
It's. Yep. And also,

469
00:28:19,452 --> 00:28:22,964
like, it seems like they just really enjoy kissing each other.

470
00:28:23,052 --> 00:28:25,876
So if she's enjoying it, why would she take that off the table?

471
00:28:25,988 --> 00:28:29,972
This author does do a really good job of describing the kissing.

472
00:28:30,116 --> 00:28:33,268
Yes. Kissing is one of those things where I feel like it's very,

473
00:28:33,324 --> 00:28:37,252
very hard to describe what it is that you're doing with your mouth when

474
00:28:37,276 --> 00:28:40,852
you're kissing somebody. And, like, what's making it good,

475
00:28:40,956 --> 00:28:44,948
too. I am a big kisser, so I

476
00:28:45,004 --> 00:28:48,900
really enjoyed all of the kissing. And I enjoyed that they kiss

477
00:28:49,060 --> 00:28:52,308
so often when they are having sex. Because that's also

478
00:28:52,364 --> 00:28:55,556
something that we don't get a lot of in these books. No, no.

479
00:28:55,628 --> 00:28:58,220
It's usually like breath play. Yeah.

480
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:01,700
Can't kiss you if I'm choking you.

481
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,780
Or their mouth is duct taped shut. There's a mask on.

482
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:12,152
It just gets complicated. It does. So this. And this

483
00:29:12,176 --> 00:29:16,104
is. It is. It's very. It's vanilla. It's real sex. And I

484
00:29:16,272 --> 00:29:18,300
really, really like that. Yeah.

485
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,260
I don't.

486
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,180
Nope. You need the mask and the duct tape.

487
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,696
I would like it if we could just. Phoenix with a mask and duct

488
00:29:29,728 --> 00:29:33,820
tape. Are you kidding me? That would be

489
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,632
perfection. But we need a

490
00:29:37,656 --> 00:29:41,312
Storm book. You know, Storm has a mask. He.

491
00:29:41,416 --> 00:29:45,072
That Storm is where Lennon got the handcuffs in the beginning to

492
00:29:45,096 --> 00:29:48,320
handcuff Phoenix. Yes. And he also. He has some that

493
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,648
make it so when bed doesn't have a headboard or like a pole

494
00:29:51,744 --> 00:29:55,088
that he can still tie these girls up. Yeah. It's an under the mattress

495
00:29:55,184 --> 00:29:59,090
binding system. Yeah. Storm, Ashley, Jade,

496
00:29:59,170 --> 00:30:02,150
I would really like. I don't give A shit about Memphis.

497
00:30:02,490 --> 00:30:05,746
There's two books about Memphis and Skyler. I don't give a shit.

498
00:30:05,938 --> 00:30:09,122
Give me Storm. Reason. Stalking a

499
00:30:09,146 --> 00:30:12,642
woman. And. I don't think

500
00:30:12,666 --> 00:30:16,306
that he stalks them. Although I like that. I'm really in a stalker

501
00:30:16,338 --> 00:30:20,194
phase. We're doing lights out next. Yeah, I'm really into my stalking phase right

502
00:30:20,202 --> 00:30:23,874
now. Storm is like a dom. Dom. He's a top. Top. Yeah, he's a

503
00:30:23,882 --> 00:30:27,818
dom. He's a top. He. When they went to go look for Phoenix,

504
00:30:27,914 --> 00:30:31,098
and in Las Vegas, when he was swimming

505
00:30:31,114 --> 00:30:34,410
in the Bellagio fountain, he had a woman tied up in his room.

506
00:30:34,450 --> 00:30:36,630
And he left her. He left her there.

507
00:30:37,170 --> 00:30:40,442
Oh, my God. They find him. Yeah, they convince the cops to

508
00:30:40,466 --> 00:30:43,802
let them go. And he's like, well, I better get back. I have

509
00:30:43,826 --> 00:30:47,018
somebody in my room. And London is like, what the fuck?

510
00:30:47,114 --> 00:30:49,670
Yeah, she's been in there for a long time.

511
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,512
Which is like, at what point in time when you're that person, do you start

512
00:30:54,536 --> 00:30:58,464
to wonder yourself, are they coming back? I know. Oh,

513
00:30:58,512 --> 00:31:01,632
my God. Oh, my God.

514
00:31:01,736 --> 00:31:05,088
Probably just a stranger. He's not having relationships. Right.

515
00:31:05,144 --> 00:31:08,560
It's a random woman that he has tied up in Vegas. Yep.

516
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,328
So we get the scene. It's super cute. Kissing's back on the table.

517
00:31:11,424 --> 00:31:14,720
And there are other things. I didn't write them all down,

518
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:18,250
but there are other things that happen here that are gross.

519
00:31:18,330 --> 00:31:22,298
Like, there's a scene here where he walks

520
00:31:22,394 --> 00:31:25,802
into a room that Lennon is in and her face lights up and he

521
00:31:25,826 --> 00:31:29,258
yells at her to get out. And I get it.

522
00:31:29,314 --> 00:31:31,898
You're having a hard time. You just found out that you have a sister.

523
00:31:31,994 --> 00:31:36,266
You didn't know. Your world has been rocked. Like, I totally understand.

524
00:31:36,418 --> 00:31:39,350
But again, you just. You.

525
00:31:39,650 --> 00:31:42,618
Oh, God, you just are so gross. I know.

526
00:31:42,754 --> 00:31:47,098
That Quinn ends up being found and is returned

527
00:31:47,194 --> 00:31:51,322
home to her parents at the same time that DNA confirms

528
00:31:51,386 --> 00:31:54,554
that she is, in fact, his sister. After the concert that evening,

529
00:31:54,602 --> 00:31:57,978
Phoenix has been surly again, mean to Lennon.

530
00:31:58,154 --> 00:32:01,562
When Quinn shows up in Indianapolis, which is a

531
00:32:01,586 --> 00:32:05,450
three hour drive from Chicago, and she is beaten almost

532
00:32:05,490 --> 00:32:08,826
beyond recognition. Isn't Storm carrying her in? Like, she's limp and he's

533
00:32:08,858 --> 00:32:11,510
carrying her in. She's just been. Yes,

534
00:32:12,010 --> 00:32:15,330
she has, like, fractured ribs.

535
00:32:15,410 --> 00:32:19,042
She has multiple contusions that need to be sewn up.

536
00:32:19,226 --> 00:32:22,722
And she just is in terrible shape. I don't do

537
00:32:22,746 --> 00:32:26,290
kids. I cried. But he asks her how

538
00:32:26,330 --> 00:32:30,386
she got there, and she says that it was her mom.

539
00:32:30,538 --> 00:32:33,890
Yeah. Her mom finally realized that this is not.

540
00:32:33,930 --> 00:32:36,450
Her kid's gonna die if she leaves her There. And this is not the best

541
00:32:36,490 --> 00:32:39,672
place for her. Yeah. Who does? I think Phoenix even acknowledges, like,

542
00:32:39,696 --> 00:32:42,728
she did the one right thing as a parent and got her kid

543
00:32:42,744 --> 00:32:45,992
out of there. And sad thing is, like, you know, Phoenix's mom

544
00:32:46,016 --> 00:32:49,576
is going home to. Yeah, this. This is her fate

545
00:32:49,608 --> 00:32:53,224
as well. But good for her for putting her kid

546
00:32:53,272 --> 00:32:56,952
first. Yeah, absolutely. With her condition, they feel

547
00:32:56,976 --> 00:32:59,304
like she needs to go to a hospital. She does not want to go to

548
00:32:59,312 --> 00:33:02,808
the hospital. She's terrified that they're going to find her, that they're

549
00:33:02,824 --> 00:33:05,958
going to take her away. And Phoenix agrees.

550
00:33:06,054 --> 00:33:09,382
They have basically, like an on call private doctor that they,

551
00:33:09,486 --> 00:33:12,614
I'm sure use for crazy shit

552
00:33:12,662 --> 00:33:16,230
that happens when they're on tour that they fly in to care

553
00:33:16,270 --> 00:33:19,334
for his sister. And while this is happening,

554
00:33:19,382 --> 00:33:23,302
Phoenix disappears. And we learn that he and

555
00:33:23,326 --> 00:33:26,758
Memphis and Chandler drove to Chicago

556
00:33:26,934 --> 00:33:30,326
to beat the shit out of the sheriff

557
00:33:30,518 --> 00:33:34,038
and. Or out of her dad, the cop,

558
00:33:34,134 --> 00:33:37,570
whatever. And he

559
00:33:38,190 --> 00:33:42,102
basically blackmails him into getting to keep Quinn.

560
00:33:42,246 --> 00:33:45,530
And so he gets to keep Quinn from here on out as her legal guardian.

561
00:33:46,030 --> 00:33:49,702
Shortly after this, George grows the fucking pair

562
00:33:49,846 --> 00:33:53,730
and decides that he's. I thought we were done with him.

563
00:33:54,430 --> 00:33:59,176
We're not done with George. George confronts Lennon

564
00:33:59,368 --> 00:34:03,176
and he's being mean. He's being just. He's comparing

565
00:34:03,208 --> 00:34:06,660
her to Phoenix and saying that she just used him.

566
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:11,224
Just grow up. Yeah. Well, Phoenix gets

567
00:34:11,272 --> 00:34:14,424
mad, which Nicole loves. Yeah. I don't even have to say

568
00:34:14,432 --> 00:34:17,912
it. Please stand up for me. Please pummel another man for

569
00:34:17,936 --> 00:34:22,264
me. Yes. Phoenix steps in, gets into a fight with George, and Lennon,

570
00:34:22,312 --> 00:34:25,863
like, breaks up the fight and is like, what are

571
00:34:25,871 --> 00:34:29,303
you doing? And Phoenix is like, well, he hurt you. And she says, he didn't

572
00:34:29,351 --> 00:34:32,871
hurt me. You did. And they

573
00:34:32,895 --> 00:34:36,407
are now fighting again. Yep. We're back on. They don't stop fighting. Yes.

574
00:34:36,503 --> 00:34:40,219
All the time. Really committed to the enemies, to lovers.

575
00:34:43,759 --> 00:34:47,111
Yeah. She really, really did. We did

576
00:34:47,135 --> 00:34:50,512
not want to let that go. No. I think that is what I like

577
00:34:50,536 --> 00:34:54,300
about this too, though. I like that, like, hate sex.

578
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:59,136
And this book gives me that. They decide Quinn

579
00:34:59,248 --> 00:35:02,432
is now sharing a room with Lennon because Lennon is

580
00:35:02,456 --> 00:35:06,224
fighting with Phoenix and she's avoiding Phoenix. And Quinn

581
00:35:06,272 --> 00:35:09,360
has a sleepover with Skyler.

582
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,176
Because, of course now there's another woman, so she has to be best friends.

583
00:35:12,248 --> 00:35:15,552
Yep. That woman. Yep. And it's the women's responsibility

584
00:35:15,616 --> 00:35:19,196
to care for the. The child. Yeah. Even though she's

585
00:35:19,228 --> 00:35:22,460
Phoenix's ward. Yeah. The women need to step in and care for her.

586
00:35:22,500 --> 00:35:25,692
Right. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Phoenix shows up at

587
00:35:25,716 --> 00:35:29,564
her door that night and convinces her to play a game of Truth

588
00:35:29,612 --> 00:35:32,668
or Dare. In this scene here,

589
00:35:32,804 --> 00:35:36,108
Lennon and Phoenix are. I don't know,

590
00:35:36,164 --> 00:35:39,644
they're kind of hate bonding, I guess would be the best way to

591
00:35:39,652 --> 00:35:43,330
describe it. They're sort of fighting and also sharing

592
00:35:43,410 --> 00:35:46,962
a bunch of intimate details. Phoenix admits that

593
00:35:46,986 --> 00:35:50,354
he went to Dartmouth to visit her and

594
00:35:50,442 --> 00:35:53,698
that when he got there, he saw her

595
00:35:53,754 --> 00:35:57,330
with her boyfriend Harry, and that he

596
00:35:57,370 --> 00:36:00,402
was happy. She said that she was looking at him the

597
00:36:00,426 --> 00:36:03,698
way that she used to look at him. I do.

598
00:36:03,754 --> 00:36:07,922
I love this whole admission because he says that after

599
00:36:08,026 --> 00:36:11,622
this. After their song went viral, he knew she had to have heard it or

600
00:36:11,646 --> 00:36:15,078
not viral. Their song was on the radio. He knew she had to have heard

601
00:36:15,094 --> 00:36:18,854
it. And all he wanted was for her to yell at him.

602
00:36:18,942 --> 00:36:22,614
Yeah. And he went to Dartmouth hoping that she would

603
00:36:22,782 --> 00:36:25,990
yell at him, let him have it, make him feel as shitty as he feels.

604
00:36:26,150 --> 00:36:29,846
And he realized that the reason she hadn't is because she had moved on.

605
00:36:29,998 --> 00:36:33,846
And I do like that glimpse into how shitty

606
00:36:33,878 --> 00:36:37,074
he felt. Because I think in a lot of books and even in movies,

607
00:36:37,122 --> 00:36:40,770
everything you see the men break the women's heart and how

608
00:36:40,810 --> 00:36:44,066
devastated they were. And we get that here. We know Phoenix,

609
00:36:44,098 --> 00:36:47,330
even though he's not expressing that

610
00:36:47,370 --> 00:36:51,234
he didn't express well when they were together in high school that

611
00:36:51,322 --> 00:36:55,650
he really was devastated. He was in love with her. And now he's.

612
00:36:55,810 --> 00:36:59,106
He's the. She is the only girlfriend that he's

613
00:36:59,138 --> 00:37:02,834
ever had. And they technically only dated for. She says it at some point.

614
00:37:02,922 --> 00:37:06,760
Like a day. Yeah. We dated for two days. And she

615
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:10,888
jokes a lot about how he only half took her virginity because they didn't finish.

616
00:37:10,984 --> 00:37:13,672
Yeah. And. But this is.

617
00:37:13,776 --> 00:37:18,216
Lennon is the only real relationship that he's ever had. And probably aside

618
00:37:18,248 --> 00:37:21,624
from Storm, one of his only friends that he's really ever. Had, and the

619
00:37:21,632 --> 00:37:25,384
only person, too. And I think. Cause, like, once you become famous, you people.

620
00:37:25,472 --> 00:37:29,032
You question people's motives. And with Lennon,

621
00:37:29,176 --> 00:37:32,660
he knows that she has always loved him for him.

622
00:37:33,410 --> 00:37:37,130
And he, I think, in that moment, realized how badly he fucked things

623
00:37:37,170 --> 00:37:40,762
up. Yeah. And that he's telling her about this. I. I did love

624
00:37:40,786 --> 00:37:44,074
that. Yeah. She admits

625
00:37:44,122 --> 00:37:47,370
to him that she did hear his song and that

626
00:37:47,410 --> 00:37:50,970
she was mad and that she took

627
00:37:51,010 --> 00:37:54,110
a trip to see him in concert.

628
00:37:54,450 --> 00:37:58,282
And she really starts to unravel in this conversation.

629
00:37:58,426 --> 00:38:02,090
She really tells him that he took away

630
00:38:02,390 --> 00:38:06,190
all of her ability to do what she really wanted to do, which was to

631
00:38:06,230 --> 00:38:09,582
create music. And it just kind of gets her

632
00:38:09,606 --> 00:38:13,342
all fired up. She remembers what it is that she is

633
00:38:13,366 --> 00:38:16,958
here to do and why she's mad. And all of those old

634
00:38:17,014 --> 00:38:20,782
feelings of angst resurface. And he kicks him

635
00:38:20,806 --> 00:38:24,126
out. And as she's kicking him out, she tells him, you didn't have to steal

636
00:38:24,158 --> 00:38:27,094
it. I would have given it to you. She tells him, here, I would have

637
00:38:27,102 --> 00:38:30,870
given you everything. Yeah, she really. And that I just. For both of them.

638
00:38:30,910 --> 00:38:35,126
I feel for both of them. I. I was really emotional during this part because

639
00:38:35,278 --> 00:38:38,770
he's realizing that she did have feelings after she went to his show.

640
00:38:39,070 --> 00:38:42,070
It wasn't over. And then she just, like,

641
00:38:42,110 --> 00:38:46,022
twists that knife in saying, like, I would have given you everything. And he,

642
00:38:46,206 --> 00:38:49,330
in that realization, just realized how much she did love him.

643
00:38:49,630 --> 00:38:53,398
And it's just heartbreaking from both sides. Yeah. Well. And later

644
00:38:53,454 --> 00:38:57,222
on, she does tell him. She goes through,

645
00:38:57,406 --> 00:39:01,334
like, a faux scenario of what would have happened had

646
00:39:01,502 --> 00:39:05,782
they stayed and, like, worked things out. And it's pretty bleak.

647
00:39:05,926 --> 00:39:09,606
Yeah. She doesn't think they would have made it if they would have stayed together.

648
00:39:09,758 --> 00:39:13,318
I don't disagree. Because his rise to fame,

649
00:39:13,494 --> 00:39:16,918
I don't think she could have been there for that. It would have been.

650
00:39:17,054 --> 00:39:19,650
She would have gone to Dartmouth. He would have stayed in la.

651
00:39:20,180 --> 00:39:23,756
She. If the stuff happened with her dad again, it wouldn't

652
00:39:23,788 --> 00:39:27,340
have worked. Yeah, I agree. This is the only scenario anyways, where things

653
00:39:27,380 --> 00:39:30,732
work with them. I agree. The next show that

654
00:39:30,756 --> 00:39:34,908
they have is in their hometown, and Lennon gets permission

655
00:39:35,004 --> 00:39:38,924
to leave her duties for one night to

656
00:39:39,012 --> 00:39:42,556
go visit her dad. And while she is visiting with her dad,

657
00:39:42,588 --> 00:39:46,464
who is being taken care of by Mrs. Palma while she's been gone,

658
00:39:46,652 --> 00:39:50,776
Phoenix shows up. And Lennon

659
00:39:50,808 --> 00:39:53,976
is mad about it. Of course she is.

660
00:39:54,048 --> 00:39:57,608
Yeah. Which I don't blame her. Like, she's here to spend time with her dad.

661
00:39:57,704 --> 00:40:00,760
And then Phoenix shows up and her dad. It's one thing

662
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:05,288
to know that someone has dementia, but to actually see

663
00:40:05,344 --> 00:40:08,520
it. And I mean, for Lennon, too, that's a very vulnerable,

664
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:12,456
vulnerable moment for her to have somebody else witness this relationship

665
00:40:12,488 --> 00:40:15,882
now with her dad. Because Mrs. Palma leaves them, like, I. Gotta go

666
00:40:15,906 --> 00:40:19,114
run some errands. So Lennon is freezing Phoenix out,

667
00:40:19,202 --> 00:40:22,586
and while she's left him alone, she goes

668
00:40:22,618 --> 00:40:25,898
to do some laundry or something and comes back up and realizes

669
00:40:25,994 --> 00:40:30,058
that Phoenix is playing her song for

670
00:40:30,114 --> 00:40:33,722
her dad on the piano. He's singing it, and he has a

671
00:40:33,746 --> 00:40:37,610
lucid moment here, which is, like, so emotional

672
00:40:37,690 --> 00:40:40,820
for Lennon. He tells her how proud of her that

673
00:40:40,860 --> 00:40:44,404
she is, and then Phoenix convinces her

674
00:40:44,492 --> 00:40:48,580
to play it for him. So then she plays

675
00:40:48,740 --> 00:40:52,420
her song for him. He tells her that he likes it even better

676
00:40:52,460 --> 00:40:56,452
than he did the Phoenix segment. And they get some alone time here

677
00:40:56,556 --> 00:41:00,052
for the two of them to play music and

678
00:41:00,076 --> 00:41:04,020
sing together like they used to before he got sick. So it's a very

679
00:41:04,140 --> 00:41:07,600
special thing that Phoenix has facilitated for her in this.

680
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:11,680
However, while she is supposed to be enjoying her

681
00:41:11,720 --> 00:41:14,688
time off, Phoenix doesn't make it to soundcheck.

682
00:41:14,784 --> 00:41:18,256
Chandler is blowing up Lennon. He's like, this is your one fucking job.

683
00:41:18,328 --> 00:41:21,968
He's not here. She comes together, like,

684
00:41:22,104 --> 00:41:25,968
if I was Phoenix, where would I be? And she

685
00:41:26,024 --> 00:41:29,392
goes to. Is this

686
00:41:29,416 --> 00:41:32,460
your favorite scene? I should have known.

687
00:41:33,570 --> 00:41:37,050
So she shows up at his dad's. He's drunk,

688
00:41:37,130 --> 00:41:40,522
even though he promised her after he threw a bottle at her head that he

689
00:41:40,546 --> 00:41:44,470
would stop drinking. So he is

690
00:41:44,850 --> 00:41:48,234
clearly very emotional. He's kind of spiraling.

691
00:41:48,362 --> 00:41:51,434
He is, like, yelling at her, threatening her,

692
00:41:51,602 --> 00:41:55,098
and she's sort of standing up to him. She's saying,

693
00:41:55,154 --> 00:41:58,474
like, I know you won't hurt me. And the whole

694
00:41:58,522 --> 00:42:02,322
scene is. I'm almost ashamed of the fact that I

695
00:42:02,426 --> 00:42:05,810
enjoy what comes. I did, though, I think this does

696
00:42:05,850 --> 00:42:09,650
make sense because Phoenix just helped her have that moment with her dad.

697
00:42:09,810 --> 00:42:13,874
Lennon realizes that Phoenix will never have that type of closure with his dad.

698
00:42:14,002 --> 00:42:16,710
So I think I could have, even in the moment,

699
00:42:17,050 --> 00:42:21,154
forgiven how shitty he was being, just because

700
00:42:21,322 --> 00:42:24,642
that's. That is a really emotional, hard thing to watch

701
00:42:24,666 --> 00:42:28,350
somebody else get what you'll never have with the last parent that you have.

702
00:42:28,860 --> 00:42:32,628
I just. I don't. Again,

703
00:42:32,684 --> 00:42:35,524
I just don't like the. I need to save him.

704
00:42:35,612 --> 00:42:39,060
Yeah. Not because I don't like that she does it, but I just.

705
00:42:39,100 --> 00:42:43,156
I don't like that she needs to be the one. And honest to God,

706
00:42:43,348 --> 00:42:46,772
I believe that there are absolutely a lot of men

707
00:42:46,796 --> 00:42:49,876
in this world who can only be saved by a woman,

708
00:42:50,028 --> 00:42:53,892
which is so. It doesn't make it right, but it is. It is

709
00:42:53,916 --> 00:42:56,520
very depressing. You know, I just. It's.

710
00:42:56,950 --> 00:43:00,398
They won't heal themselves on their own. And he. Phoenix, would not have healed

711
00:43:00,414 --> 00:43:03,150
himself on his own. No. Had it not been for Lennon. Oh, no.

712
00:43:03,190 --> 00:43:06,382
He'd be dead. He would be dead. Absolutely. Yep. He would

713
00:43:06,406 --> 00:43:08,930
have continued to free fall off of that cliff.

714
00:43:09,910 --> 00:43:13,006
Phoenix is crying. He's sobbing,

715
00:43:13,198 --> 00:43:16,462
and she's comforting him. And she's like, you know,

716
00:43:16,486 --> 00:43:20,446
let's go, we have to get back to the concert. And he starts

717
00:43:20,638 --> 00:43:23,966
his dad's trailer on fire. And Lennon

718
00:43:23,998 --> 00:43:27,534
is like, holy shit, we have to get the fuck out of here.

719
00:43:27,702 --> 00:43:31,198
And she's kind of reaching for him to get

720
00:43:31,254 --> 00:43:35,134
him to Come with her. And he starts

721
00:43:35,182 --> 00:43:38,878
kissing her and then pushes her up on the hood of their

722
00:43:38,934 --> 00:43:42,798
car. And he starts to finger her. And then he

723
00:43:42,854 --> 00:43:45,930
fucks her hard and fast until they both come.

724
00:43:46,230 --> 00:43:50,040
I can't do this scene justice. Yeah, this scene

725
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:53,288
is. It's aggressive. It's raw,

726
00:43:53,384 --> 00:43:56,648
It's. Yes, it is a very hot

727
00:43:56,704 --> 00:44:00,680
scene. It is a very sexy scene. I literally love that

728
00:44:00,720 --> 00:44:04,344
there is an actual. Phoenix is literally burning the

729
00:44:04,352 --> 00:44:07,592
world down. And he's like, we're doing this on top

730
00:44:07,616 --> 00:44:11,416
of this car. They're in a trailer park. There are trailers around.

731
00:44:11,488 --> 00:44:13,940
Yes, there's. And neither of them care.

732
00:44:14,250 --> 00:44:17,746
Yes. And you do love to be watched. And I just cannot

733
00:44:17,778 --> 00:44:21,522
describe it. I. Again, I feel like it's a very vanilla scene.

734
00:44:21,586 --> 00:44:25,202
So I think it's hard to describe, but it's just the way that

735
00:44:25,226 --> 00:44:29,282
she writes it is so visceral that it is so fucking sexy.

736
00:44:29,346 --> 00:44:32,434
So she can write a sex scene. She can.

737
00:44:32,522 --> 00:44:36,626
Absolutely. They have returned to the tour bus. So Phoenix

738
00:44:36,658 --> 00:44:40,162
makes it to his concert. They're back on the tour bus. They're back doing the

739
00:44:40,186 --> 00:44:43,762
touring thing. And we get another naughty

740
00:44:43,826 --> 00:44:47,190
scene in the lounge. I do also like this scene,

741
00:44:47,610 --> 00:44:52,146
too. It's a good scene. He is fingering

742
00:44:52,178 --> 00:44:55,554
her, and he wants her to take her shorts off. And she is resistant to

743
00:44:55,562 --> 00:44:58,482
taking her clothes off because they're on the foot. They're on the bus.

744
00:44:58,586 --> 00:45:01,906
Everybody's on the bus. Yeah, everybody is sleeping on that. So they're.

745
00:45:01,938 --> 00:45:04,870
It's. Chandler's room is sharing a wall with this lounge.

746
00:45:06,250 --> 00:45:09,682
Yeah. And she gives into him because

747
00:45:09,706 --> 00:45:12,034
he's basically like, if you don't take your clothes off, you're not going to get

748
00:45:12,042 --> 00:45:15,550
an orgasm. So he is.

749
00:45:15,930 --> 00:45:19,426
So she takes her shorts off, and then she gets down on her knees and

750
00:45:19,498 --> 00:45:23,842
she starts to suck his dick. And then he pushes

751
00:45:23,906 --> 00:45:27,810
her up against the wall and then eats her

752
00:45:27,850 --> 00:45:31,570
out from behind until she comes. So he sort of pushes her

753
00:45:31,610 --> 00:45:34,870
chest first and into the wall, and he kind of starts to,

754
00:45:34,910 --> 00:45:38,406
like, play with her ass a little bit. And she's like, no,

755
00:45:38,558 --> 00:45:41,414
I'm super uncomfortable with that. I've never done that before. And he's like, all right,

756
00:45:41,422 --> 00:45:44,198
we won't take your ass. And then in his mind, he's like,

757
00:45:44,254 --> 00:45:47,846
yet. And men.

758
00:45:47,998 --> 00:45:50,130
Yeah. And he.

759
00:45:50,910 --> 00:45:54,822
She gets an orgasm while she's sort of bent up

760
00:45:54,846 --> 00:45:57,430
against this wall. This is my favorite position.

761
00:45:57,550 --> 00:46:00,966
Yeah. Out from. So I hear you, babe. Then he gets

762
00:46:00,998 --> 00:46:05,158
her on the couch. He has Lennon ride him, and she comes

763
00:46:05,294 --> 00:46:09,302
while he uses his finger to, like, kind of her Ass.

764
00:46:09,486 --> 00:46:13,526
And then he doesn't come. Yeah. So she's like, don't worry,

765
00:46:13,558 --> 00:46:17,590
babe. I gotcha. And then she rides him harder until he

766
00:46:17,630 --> 00:46:20,454
comes. This all seems great,

767
00:46:20,622 --> 00:46:24,108
except that the next day picks leak of

768
00:46:24,294 --> 00:46:27,648
Lennon and Phoenix having sex.

769
00:46:27,784 --> 00:46:31,100
Yeah. And they're all obviously somebody from the bus.

770
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:36,064
Lennon is fired promptly. Like, almost again.

771
00:46:36,152 --> 00:46:39,856
Stupid. I mean, I guess, like the leaking pictures is not a great

772
00:46:39,928 --> 00:46:42,208
look. And he was. She was supposed to keep him out of the press,

773
00:46:42,344 --> 00:46:45,664
but he hasn't up. He's been his show sober.

774
00:46:45,792 --> 00:46:49,072
Ish. He's doing everything that she was supposed to get him

775
00:46:49,096 --> 00:46:52,832
to do. So Chandler is just being a stupid little bitch.

776
00:46:52,976 --> 00:46:55,776
Dickie is right. Yeah. Absolutely.

777
00:46:55,968 --> 00:46:59,760
Phoenix and the group think that it's George because

778
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:03,152
it's. Of course it's fucking George. It's this little nice guy who.

779
00:47:03,176 --> 00:47:06,912
A woman didn't have sex with him, so now he's going to ruin her

780
00:47:06,936 --> 00:47:10,784
life. Phoenix beats the shit out of him good. While everybody watches.

781
00:47:10,912 --> 00:47:14,064
And then they pay off some bouncers to take him to

782
00:47:14,072 --> 00:47:16,660
the hospital and. Just leave them there. Yeah.

783
00:47:17,430 --> 00:47:20,974
Phoenix asks Lennon to stay and offers to pay her.

784
00:47:21,062 --> 00:47:24,766
And she gets offended and is like, I'm not a prostitute.

785
00:47:24,878 --> 00:47:27,890
Yeah. And she's packing up. She's getting ready to leave.

786
00:47:28,470 --> 00:47:32,222
And he comes up with a plan to get her to stay. He's going

787
00:47:32,246 --> 00:47:35,790
to convince Chandler to let her

788
00:47:35,830 --> 00:47:39,406
get her job back, but he needs more time. So I liked

789
00:47:39,438 --> 00:47:43,640
this. I did think this is cute. Quinn fakes

790
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:47,096
an appendix burst to keep Lennon there.

791
00:47:47,248 --> 00:47:51,576
So they're like, I love this whole scene. Because Storm

792
00:47:51,608 --> 00:47:54,984
brings her in and Lennon is like, oh, my God, where's the ambulance?

793
00:47:55,032 --> 00:47:58,776
We need. She's. This girl is dying. And Storm is even like,

794
00:47:58,848 --> 00:48:02,392
for a second there, I was. I was convinced. And she.

795
00:48:02,496 --> 00:48:05,800
It's. It's. It's a funny scene. It is. Yeah. It's not a funny book,

796
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,472
but that I thought was a funny scene. Yeah, it is. It is a great

797
00:48:08,496 --> 00:48:12,588
scene. While this is all happening, Phoenix confronts

798
00:48:12,684 --> 00:48:16,540
Chandler and demands for her to get her job back. And eventually

799
00:48:16,620 --> 00:48:20,044
Chandler gives in. Phoenix has some information

800
00:48:20,132 --> 00:48:24,172
about Chandler as it pertains to, like, Skyler and Memphis and

801
00:48:24,276 --> 00:48:28,044
just kind of some things that are happening with them that would make Chandler

802
00:48:28,092 --> 00:48:31,996
look bad with Skyler. And Chandler has a crush on Skyler, so he

803
00:48:32,068 --> 00:48:34,680
essentially agrees to keep Lennon on.

804
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:38,600
And they kind of just go back

805
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:42,600
to. They just bounce right back. They just go back to business as

806
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,080
usual. Yep. That night,

807
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:49,032
Skyler. I had to bring up a scene. I wasn't going to, but I Have

808
00:48:49,056 --> 00:48:53,340
to. That night, Skylar confronts

809
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:57,048
Lennon in the green room with a bunch of

810
00:48:57,104 --> 00:49:01,260
printed photos of the compliments

811
00:49:01,710 --> 00:49:05,730
that people posted on the social media,

812
00:49:06,110 --> 00:49:09,574
images that were posted. And they're all things like,

813
00:49:09,662 --> 00:49:13,174
you know, about how Phoenix has great taste and

814
00:49:13,262 --> 00:49:16,486
he hot. Lennon is. Yeah. All of these things.

815
00:49:16,638 --> 00:49:20,054
And then Skyler shows off her

816
00:49:20,142 --> 00:49:23,798
air quotes. Flaws. Yeah. She's like,

817
00:49:23,854 --> 00:49:27,828
there's some stretch marks. Stretch marks. Let's look at my cellulite.

818
00:49:28,014 --> 00:49:31,320
The whole scene is so performative and gross. I fucking hate it.

819
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:35,000
I know. I was gonna say. I didn't even write that down. I hated that

820
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:38,264
scene. I just. Again, why? Yeah, why?

821
00:49:38,432 --> 00:49:42,024
This is not a comparison. It doesn't matter. It literally

822
00:49:42,072 --> 00:49:45,928
does not matter what your body looks like. And I think it's absolutely so silly

823
00:49:45,944 --> 00:49:49,608
and ridiculous that you would show off some stretch marks

824
00:49:49,624 --> 00:49:52,680
and some fucking cellulite. Now you know what it's like

825
00:49:52,720 --> 00:49:56,574
to be bullied. Yeah. Like, bitch, I'll show you some fucking cell

826
00:49:56,622 --> 00:50:00,206
cellulite. Like, I don't. Your little fucking size 5 cellulite

827
00:50:00,238 --> 00:50:02,210
doesn't bother me. Anyways,

828
00:50:02,790 --> 00:50:06,730
Phoenix's crew is supposed to be leaving for

829
00:50:07,030 --> 00:50:09,450
Europe for the European leg of their tour.

830
00:50:09,750 --> 00:50:13,246
And they meet everybody on the tarmac, and everybody is saying goodbye. And the plane

831
00:50:13,278 --> 00:50:17,134
starts to take off because Lennon's done. She only agreed to us.

832
00:50:17,222 --> 00:50:20,622
She said, like, she did not agree to Europe. Right. So her job is done.

833
00:50:20,726 --> 00:50:23,502
Right. She's supposed to get her paycheck, and she's supposed to go home and take

834
00:50:23,526 --> 00:50:26,892
care of her dad. And the plane starts to leave and Phoenix isn't on it.

835
00:50:26,916 --> 00:50:30,684
And she's freaking out. She's like, they're leaving without you? And Phoenix

836
00:50:30,732 --> 00:50:34,540
says, surprise. I'm actually going to stay one more day with you. He takes her

837
00:50:34,580 --> 00:50:38,380
home to his house to spend one last

838
00:50:38,420 --> 00:50:41,800
night with Lennon. And of course they fight.

839
00:50:42,100 --> 00:50:46,172
Yep. Of course they fight. And she locks herself in a

840
00:50:46,196 --> 00:50:49,564
room. Yeah. Where she discovers a box

841
00:50:49,692 --> 00:50:53,406
filled with what she initially thinks are songs

842
00:50:53,438 --> 00:50:57,806
that he wrote and soon discovers are. Is filled with letters

843
00:50:57,918 --> 00:51:01,210
that he wrote to her and never sent her. And the letters are,

844
00:51:01,590 --> 00:51:04,766
I would say, devastating. Yes. Because they're like,

845
00:51:04,918 --> 00:51:07,934
two days after losing you. Like, a week. Yeah.

846
00:51:07,982 --> 00:51:11,390
I. A year. I just went to Dartmouth. Like, I realized you've moved on.

847
00:51:11,430 --> 00:51:14,462
This is my last letter. They. They are. Yeah.

848
00:51:14,526 --> 00:51:18,140
It. It again, really reinforces that he did.

849
00:51:18,180 --> 00:51:20,812
He was in love with her. He did love her. Even though they had a

850
00:51:20,836 --> 00:51:23,276
month together. Yeah,

851
00:51:23,388 --> 00:51:26,204
yeah, yeah, I know.

852
00:51:26,292 --> 00:51:28,080
I'm such a SAP.

853
00:51:29,380 --> 00:51:32,652
Oh, my God. She confronts him

854
00:51:32,676 --> 00:51:36,156
about the letters, asks Him. Why he never sent them.

855
00:51:36,308 --> 00:51:39,276
And then he worships her body.

856
00:51:39,348 --> 00:51:43,984
He takes her into his bedroom and he eats

857
00:51:44,032 --> 00:51:47,936
her out to orgasm. And then he has her suck his dick until

858
00:51:48,088 --> 00:51:51,472
he basically can't take it anymore. Pulls her up on top

859
00:51:51,496 --> 00:51:55,152
of him. There's more kissing. Love the kissing. Yeah.

860
00:51:55,296 --> 00:51:58,368
He rolls her over until he's on top, and then they really

861
00:51:58,424 --> 00:52:02,336
just. They make love here. Yeah. Yep. So when they're both crying

862
00:52:02,448 --> 00:52:06,220
about it being their last time last night together,

863
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:10,168
the next morning, he wakes up and he

864
00:52:10,304 --> 00:52:14,520
has to get onto his flight for Europe. So he writes Beautiful

865
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:18,648
on her in permanent marker and then goes to leave. And he

866
00:52:18,704 --> 00:52:21,960
should have left. Yes. Everything about

867
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:25,192
the way that this entire scene was written was that he was leaving. Yes,

868
00:52:25,256 --> 00:52:27,704
there was. I was like, oh, he's going to go, and this is going to

869
00:52:27,712 --> 00:52:29,992
be the end of it. And they're going to get. When he's done with this

870
00:52:30,016 --> 00:52:33,336
European leg of his tour. But Phoenix fucking Walker

871
00:52:33,368 --> 00:52:36,982
is an indulgent bastard, and he can't fucking let anything go.

872
00:52:37,096 --> 00:52:40,282
So he convinces her to go with him to Europe.

873
00:52:40,386 --> 00:52:43,594
Yeah. He's written on her body now and was going to

874
00:52:43,602 --> 00:52:46,698
say goodbye, and he's like, I can't fucking do it. Wakes her up, and it's

875
00:52:46,714 --> 00:52:50,730
like, you have to come with me to Europe. Yeah. And again, Lennon is

876
00:52:50,770 --> 00:52:54,042
processing all of this in, like, real time. So initially, she's like,

877
00:52:54,146 --> 00:52:57,562
I'm so excited. And then they get to the point, they get to get on

878
00:52:57,586 --> 00:53:00,698
the plane, and she's like, what is this? Like, what are we doing? Yeah.

879
00:53:00,794 --> 00:53:04,500
And they both realize it's never gonna work.

880
00:53:04,540 --> 00:53:08,692
He needs to make a pretty big fucking admission

881
00:53:08,756 --> 00:53:12,452
in order for her to ever forgive him fully. Yeah. And so

882
00:53:12,636 --> 00:53:16,084
even though they were just excited about it, now they're not excited about it anymore.

883
00:53:16,132 --> 00:53:19,540
Well, doesn't he, like, threaten her to get her to go? He's like,

884
00:53:19,660 --> 00:53:22,484
I could make it. You haven't gotten your check yet. I could make it.

885
00:53:22,492 --> 00:53:25,812
So you don't get your check if you don't come. That's right. Yes. Because I

886
00:53:25,916 --> 00:53:29,732
remember just being so annoyed. I'm like, you almost fucking

887
00:53:29,796 --> 00:53:32,588
had it. Yeah. Almost had me. Yep.

888
00:53:32,724 --> 00:53:36,236
Yeah. And you go and pull this. I know.

889
00:53:36,308 --> 00:53:39,740
Because you have to get your way. Yeah. He's so toxic.

890
00:53:39,820 --> 00:53:43,720
He's. Yeah. You're smiling as you say that.

891
00:53:44,980 --> 00:53:47,596
I feel a little bit like I'm bringing you over to the dark side.

892
00:53:47,668 --> 00:53:50,764
I know. There are some things I did not like about

893
00:53:50,852 --> 00:53:53,852
him. Sure. I could get past them all, though.

894
00:53:53,956 --> 00:53:57,468
Yeah. Okay. For Phoenix Walker, you Could.

895
00:53:57,524 --> 00:54:00,310
Yeah, I could. Yeah. Yeah. They get to Europe,

896
00:54:01,090 --> 00:54:04,842
Lennon, Skyler, and Quinn have front row seats to this concert.

897
00:54:04,986 --> 00:54:08,842
And during a break, Skyler brings Lennon

898
00:54:08,906 --> 00:54:12,362
into a back room or a side room,

899
00:54:12,466 --> 00:54:15,994
and she's got all these, like, clothes for Lennon. She's trying to get her

900
00:54:16,082 --> 00:54:19,750
ready, and she's getting her primped. Lennon doesn't understand what's going on.

901
00:54:20,130 --> 00:54:22,830
And the next thing that she knows,

902
00:54:23,170 --> 00:54:26,476
Phoenix is bringing her on stage to sing

903
00:54:26,548 --> 00:54:29,116
her song for the crowd.

904
00:54:29,308 --> 00:54:32,572
And she's like, that's the most incredible thing that's ever happened to me.

905
00:54:32,676 --> 00:54:35,708
And then he. In front of everybody.

906
00:54:35,804 --> 00:54:39,564
I didn't like this. He again is thinking about

907
00:54:39,732 --> 00:54:43,212
himself and Lennon. He wants to get Lennon back.

908
00:54:43,236 --> 00:54:46,188
He thinks this is the way to do it. He's thinking about no one else.

909
00:54:46,284 --> 00:54:50,044
Yeah. Yeah. He admits to the entire crowd

910
00:54:50,092 --> 00:54:53,756
that he stole the song from her. His bandmates don't even know.

911
00:54:53,828 --> 00:54:57,292
Storm didn't even know. Chandler didn't know. That's the reason that

912
00:54:57,316 --> 00:54:59,980
they were signed. Yeah.

913
00:55:00,060 --> 00:55:03,692
Idiot. And she knows almost immediately that that's what

914
00:55:03,716 --> 00:55:06,812
he's about to do. And she's like, no, don't do it.

915
00:55:06,996 --> 00:55:10,460
She, I think, realizes what she

916
00:55:10,500 --> 00:55:14,364
wanted was to ruin him, and she really does not want that after all.

917
00:55:14,452 --> 00:55:18,172
And she is, I think, a little bit devastated

918
00:55:18,236 --> 00:55:21,962
that he sees a bigger picture. Like, this isn't just his

919
00:55:21,986 --> 00:55:25,990
career now. This is everyone's career. And this is.

920
00:55:26,450 --> 00:55:29,546
It's not some silly little, like, I stole

921
00:55:29,578 --> 00:55:33,498
your song. Like, they have this big career that he's now

922
00:55:33,554 --> 00:55:37,530
destroyed. Yeah, yeah. It's pretty monumental.

923
00:55:37,690 --> 00:55:42,122
Chandler collects everybody to get them into kind

924
00:55:42,146 --> 00:55:45,978
of crisis mode. And this is when Lennon gets

925
00:55:45,994 --> 00:55:49,242
a call that her dad is sick, that he's in the hospital and

926
00:55:49,266 --> 00:55:52,378
that she needs to come home. And she doesn't even bat an eye. She gets

927
00:55:52,394 --> 00:55:56,476
on a plane. She. She immediately goes home, where she learns that

928
00:55:56,548 --> 00:56:00,876
her father has been hospitalized and is in really,

929
00:56:00,948 --> 00:56:04,732
really bad condition. The doctors end up coming in to talk

930
00:56:04,756 --> 00:56:09,116
to her about it, and they. She starts to slowly realize that he

931
00:56:09,188 --> 00:56:12,108
is basically brain dead. There is no recovery from this.

932
00:56:12,164 --> 00:56:15,724
He is going to die. And when Phoenix

933
00:56:15,772 --> 00:56:19,596
learns this, he knows the one thing that Phoenix

934
00:56:19,628 --> 00:56:23,438
does right. I'm going to give this to him. He knows that Lennon would

935
00:56:23,494 --> 00:56:26,910
not want to get married without her dad. So he

936
00:56:26,950 --> 00:56:30,398
proposes to her in the hospital room. Has. Yeah,

937
00:56:30,414 --> 00:56:33,966
he flew back from Europe, too. He's there with her now. Yep. He has somebody

938
00:56:33,998 --> 00:56:37,758
go get chaplain or whatever, and they perform

939
00:56:37,814 --> 00:56:41,742
the ceremony and get married right there in front of her dad. And then her

940
00:56:41,766 --> 00:56:45,502
dad dies. Yeah. So it really

941
00:56:45,526 --> 00:56:48,746
could have ended there. The book really could have ended there. Honestly,

942
00:56:48,778 --> 00:56:51,914
the book kind of. Kind of ended in Europe. I don't know. She could have

943
00:56:51,922 --> 00:56:55,034
sang the song and the book could have ended all of the rest of this.

944
00:56:55,202 --> 00:56:58,570
There are no more sex scenes. I didn't need the rest of this

945
00:56:58,610 --> 00:57:02,826
book. Yeah. They go home

946
00:57:02,978 --> 00:57:07,510
to Lennon's home. And basically Lennon is.

947
00:57:07,810 --> 00:57:11,482
She's. She's emotionally comatose. She is completely shut down.

948
00:57:11,586 --> 00:57:13,950
She's locked herself in her room. She's not eating.

949
00:57:14,350 --> 00:57:17,942
Phoenix is still trying to

950
00:57:18,046 --> 00:57:21,542
navigate. He's thinking that he's going to drop this bomb and that

951
00:57:21,566 --> 00:57:25,334
he's going to have Lennon there to help him navigate this. And now she's

952
00:57:25,382 --> 00:57:29,030
not. Yeah. All of the band shows up to her

953
00:57:29,070 --> 00:57:32,774
dad's funeral and they fight at the funeral because his band,

954
00:57:32,822 --> 00:57:36,198
Storm, has not forgiven him. No. And Phoenix just left.

955
00:57:36,334 --> 00:57:40,006
Yeah, he just left. Like, Chandler is freaking out. He's threatening

956
00:57:40,038 --> 00:57:43,720
to, like, replace him with another and sue him.

957
00:57:44,020 --> 00:57:47,836
It's. It just. He is thinking

958
00:57:47,948 --> 00:57:51,436
about the now. He does not have thoughts

959
00:57:51,468 --> 00:57:54,572
that go past right now. I don't know what he thought was gonna happen.

960
00:57:54,676 --> 00:57:58,508
Yeah, absolutely. Well, he's Phoenix Walker, so he just. Figured everything works

961
00:57:58,524 --> 00:58:01,804
out. Yeah. And I agree with. I mean, he says, like,

962
00:58:01,892 --> 00:58:05,580
Skyler tells him he. Because he calls in reinforcements. He calls Skyler,

963
00:58:05,740 --> 00:58:09,630
who he feels like can be a support system because she

964
00:58:09,670 --> 00:58:13,982
just, like, lost her fiance. And I

965
00:58:14,006 --> 00:58:18,010
appreciate the sentiment, but I think losing a parent is a very different

966
00:58:18,390 --> 00:58:21,422
thing. Especially your only parent. Yeah.

967
00:58:21,566 --> 00:58:24,734
But he calls her in and she's like, you know what? You know, what are

968
00:58:24,742 --> 00:58:28,430
you doing? What's the plan? They're threatening to replace you. And Phoenix is like,

969
00:58:28,470 --> 00:58:32,110
they can try. Yeah. And I gotta say, I agree with him.

970
00:58:32,230 --> 00:58:35,322
I don't know that they would be able to replace him. I. That would be

971
00:58:35,346 --> 00:58:38,310
like Lincoln park replacing, like, it.

972
00:58:39,490 --> 00:58:42,202
They. It's. She's just not as good.

973
00:58:42,306 --> 00:58:44,670
Like, I don't know. Anyways,

974
00:58:45,490 --> 00:58:49,194
he sticks it out with her and he tells Lennon

975
00:58:49,242 --> 00:58:52,490
because she. He tells Lennon finds out that they are thinking about

976
00:58:52,530 --> 00:58:55,990
replacing him. And. And she tells him,

977
00:58:56,370 --> 00:58:59,402
what are you doing? You have to go back. And then she tells him that

978
00:58:59,426 --> 00:59:03,028
she wants a divorce. And because Phoenix is.

979
00:59:03,084 --> 00:59:07,124
Phoenix has chose Lennon, he'll give up the band he has resigned

980
00:59:07,172 --> 00:59:10,404
to if this is what will. He's not losing Lennon.

981
00:59:10,532 --> 00:59:13,924
He says, I love music, but I love you more. Yeah. Which is

982
00:59:14,012 --> 00:59:17,172
what he could have done. In the first place. Yep. Took him a minute to

983
00:59:17,196 --> 00:59:20,740
get there. Yep. Yeah. So a Lot of

984
00:59:20,780 --> 00:59:24,340
time has gone by where he basically. They have just been locked in

985
00:59:24,380 --> 00:59:27,854
a home. They're not having sex there.

986
00:59:28,022 --> 00:59:31,742
She really doesn't even at this point, like him. She's so,

987
00:59:31,846 --> 00:59:35,246
like, deep into her, like, grieving process

988
00:59:35,318 --> 00:59:38,782
that she can't even feel any type of, like, gratitude.

989
00:59:38,846 --> 00:59:42,286
She's throwing granola bars at him, and. She wants

990
00:59:42,318 --> 00:59:46,570
him to just leave and divorce her. Yeah. Which I

991
00:59:46,950 --> 00:59:50,222
think the way that I interpret that is as

992
00:59:50,246 --> 00:59:53,870
a trauma response. Yes. I think it's her not being willing to

993
00:59:53,910 --> 00:59:57,590
accept any type of support or help because she's so used

994
00:59:57,630 --> 01:00:02,130
to doing everything by herself. Yeah. But I also think that

995
01:00:02,510 --> 01:00:06,246
it's so unfair to Phoenix because he doesn't

996
01:00:06,278 --> 01:00:09,670
know how to do any of the basics yet, let alone do

997
01:00:09,710 --> 01:00:13,222
this. And I was very impressed with him that he stuck this out. Yeah.

998
01:00:13,286 --> 01:00:17,126
100. Yeah. I. She didn't make it easy.

999
01:00:17,158 --> 01:00:20,422
She didn't make it easy on him. I actually don't know what

1000
01:00:20,446 --> 01:00:24,272
happens after this. What happens after this? So Lennon calls Skylar to

1001
01:00:24,296 --> 01:00:27,472
be like, hey, I need to talk to you. Like, what's actually going on?

1002
01:00:27,656 --> 01:00:30,912
And Skylar tells Lennon that Phoenix quit the

1003
01:00:30,936 --> 01:00:35,088
band. They're replacing him. That just brings Lennon.

1004
01:00:35,184 --> 01:00:38,656
She's out of this. What, grieving that she was in.

1005
01:00:38,728 --> 01:00:41,424
Yeah. And she jumps into savior mode. Yes.

1006
01:00:41,552 --> 01:00:45,072
It's. That's something that she's so comfortable with. It is the

1007
01:00:45,096 --> 01:00:48,704
easiest emotion to transition from. Yeah. Yeah. So her and Skylar come

1008
01:00:48,712 --> 01:00:52,360
up with a plan to get Phoenix back.

1009
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:55,528
And she's like, how. How much time does it take to record this album?

1010
01:00:55,704 --> 01:00:59,128
Okay, great. Phoenix will be there because they had.

1011
01:00:59,184 --> 01:01:02,216
A timeline, a deadline that they had to finish the album by.

1012
01:01:02,288 --> 01:01:05,700
All the songs are picked out. All they have to do is record. And then

1013
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:09,380
Lennon goes in and they make up.

1014
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:13,752
There is a cute little thing where she. She has tried to.

1015
01:01:13,856 --> 01:01:16,584
She did get drunk and try to have sex with Phoenix, and he turns her

1016
01:01:16,592 --> 01:01:20,124
down because she's too drunk. So she crawls into bed and

1017
01:01:20,212 --> 01:01:23,356
starts sucking on him, and he. She's like, the fuck?

1018
01:01:23,388 --> 01:01:26,860
He's not waking up. And he eventually does because she then

1019
01:01:26,900 --> 01:01:29,932
sucks harder. And he eventually wakes up, and he thinks that

1020
01:01:29,956 --> 01:01:33,052
she thought she was drunk. Yeah. Like, I didn't want to.

1021
01:01:33,156 --> 01:01:36,476
I just thought you'd maybe pass out and go back to bed. Yeah.

1022
01:01:36,668 --> 01:01:40,300
And they make love. Yeah. And then three

1023
01:01:40,340 --> 01:01:43,982
months later, Phoenix is at the recording studio. He and Lennon made

1024
01:01:44,006 --> 01:01:47,646
a deal that if he pursued his dream, she has to pursue hers, too.

1025
01:01:47,798 --> 01:01:51,790
Ah, yes. So she is now recording a song that apparently she wrote.

1026
01:01:51,870 --> 01:01:55,838
Yeah. The End. Oh, and that last

1027
01:01:55,894 --> 01:01:58,930
part after her dad dies is like 200 pages.

1028
01:02:00,070 --> 01:02:03,022
We really wrapped up like that. Like,

1029
01:02:03,046 --> 01:02:05,726
once her dad dies, there's still like 200 more pages left in the book.

1030
01:02:05,798 --> 01:02:09,790
Oh, Jesus. It's so much that we wrapped up in like two minutes. It was

1031
01:02:09,830 --> 01:02:13,302
just all kind of unnecessary. I felt like you did tell

1032
01:02:13,326 --> 01:02:17,030
me that when in the same breath you said, I loved this book

1033
01:02:17,070 --> 01:02:20,614
so much. It was too long. Yes. So I love that you have the

1034
01:02:20,702 --> 01:02:23,942
cognitive. Cognitive dissonance to be able to identify that. Yeah.

1035
01:02:24,006 --> 01:02:27,766
So that concludes. We are

1036
01:02:27,838 --> 01:02:31,718
finally finished. Wow. We did it. Yeah. Let's jump

1037
01:02:31,734 --> 01:02:34,290
into ratings. Ratings. Spice level.

1038
01:02:34,750 --> 01:02:38,640
Spice level. If we're just going off of graphic,

1039
01:02:38,830 --> 01:02:42,076
I am going to give this book A3.

1040
01:02:42,228 --> 01:02:45,452
I also gave it A3. 700 pages, and there are

1041
01:02:45,476 --> 01:02:49,228
not a ton of sex scenes. Yeah, it. I could have had

1042
01:02:49,284 --> 01:02:52,620
so much more. Yeah. I guess I don't think that

1043
01:02:52,660 --> 01:02:56,172
most of the book was sexy. No. I would categorize this as

1044
01:02:56,196 --> 01:02:59,932
a book with smut. Yeah. It's the. The storyline is

1045
01:02:59,956 --> 01:03:03,596
meant to be its own storyline. And then the author was generous

1046
01:03:03,628 --> 01:03:06,820
enough to provide us with some sex scenes to keep us. Yeah. Interesting. There is

1047
01:03:06,860 --> 01:03:10,932
a lot of, like, that yearning and pining that I like from

1048
01:03:10,956 --> 01:03:14,068
the man said. Yeah. But it wasn't sexy.

1049
01:03:14,164 --> 01:03:17,252
Yeah. It's not a very sexy at all book. Yeah. But I do think in

1050
01:03:17,276 --> 01:03:20,996
terms of graphic, it's definitely more than fade to black.

1051
01:03:21,148 --> 01:03:25,044
Oh, yeah. And she writes. I think she can write a great sex scene.

1052
01:03:25,092 --> 01:03:28,212
Yeah, she does write a great sex scene. I just. I don't think that it

1053
01:03:28,236 --> 01:03:31,524
is. It's not quite as graphic as some of the other ones that

1054
01:03:31,532 --> 01:03:35,832
we've read. Yeah. So, yeah, I agree. Or advanced spice

1055
01:03:35,896 --> 01:03:39,416
frequency. I would probably give this a three.

1056
01:03:39,488 --> 01:03:43,032
A three. Yeah, I gave it a two. It's a long.

1057
01:03:43,136 --> 01:03:47,064
Long. It is a long book. And we go through big spans

1058
01:03:47,192 --> 01:03:50,584
with no sex. Yeah. And then the sex scenes are very short.

1059
01:03:50,672 --> 01:03:53,864
Yeah. Which again, goes back to my spice level

1060
01:03:53,952 --> 01:03:57,128
rating because the sex scenes are not. They're not long,

1061
01:03:57,184 --> 01:04:00,504
they're not drawn out. They're not super descriptive. They are wham,

1062
01:04:00,552 --> 01:04:03,386
bam, thank you, ma'am. And then they get back to the story.

1063
01:04:03,528 --> 01:04:07,142
Yeah. So there is some detail and some description, but it

1064
01:04:07,166 --> 01:04:10,886
is pretty minimal. And so, yeah, I would agree

1065
01:04:10,958 --> 01:04:14,230
that it's. They were all really hot, though. They were all really hot.

1066
01:04:14,270 --> 01:04:17,638
And I. I think it scored a little bit higher because I do.

1067
01:04:17,694 --> 01:04:21,270
On the. On the frequency scale, because I do think that, like,

1068
01:04:21,390 --> 01:04:25,462
the scenes are well timed and well Placed for

1069
01:04:25,486 --> 01:04:28,290
what happen. I agree.

1070
01:04:28,750 --> 01:04:32,098
Pros. I feel like from here on out, you're going to be given

1071
01:04:32,154 --> 01:04:35,794
low scores. I'm gonna give it a two.

1072
01:04:35,962 --> 01:04:39,714
Two. I really. There was multiple

1073
01:04:39,762 --> 01:04:42,430
times reading the book where I really had a hard time.

1074
01:04:42,890 --> 01:04:46,114
I really had a hard time immersing myself in the book.

1075
01:04:46,202 --> 01:04:49,234
Sure. I did cry. Only because,

1076
01:04:49,322 --> 01:04:53,442
as we've talked about in the past, I just don't do. I just don't

1077
01:04:53,506 --> 01:04:56,584
do children. I just don't. It does not matter.

1078
01:04:56,752 --> 01:05:00,900
Just. Even the thought of it is upsetting for me. So I.

1079
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:04,520
But it wasn't. I didn't cry because I was so, like,

1080
01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:08,040
immersed in the story or immersed in the characters. And I

1081
01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:11,416
think that many, many, many of the characters

1082
01:05:11,448 --> 01:05:14,540
in this book were written as a plot device. Yes.

1083
01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:18,980
There are multiple times with both.

1084
01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:23,166
I think that both Lenin and Phoenix are written

1085
01:05:23,278 --> 01:05:27,262
very realistically in terms of what that

1086
01:05:27,366 --> 01:05:30,302
toxic type of relationship looks like. Yeah.

1087
01:05:30,446 --> 01:05:34,350
But I feel like it's

1088
01:05:34,430 --> 01:05:38,110
so Phoenix Lennon centric that

1089
01:05:38,150 --> 01:05:41,998
the rest of the world doesn't feel well developed and well built.

1090
01:05:42,174 --> 01:05:45,774
I agree. The only parts of this book that are well developed are those two.

1091
01:05:45,942 --> 01:05:49,534
And the conversations, the activities, some of

1092
01:05:49,542 --> 01:05:53,342
the things that she describes. There are maybe only truly one

1093
01:05:53,366 --> 01:05:56,782
or two scenes outside of the sex scenes where I can really.

1094
01:05:56,886 --> 01:06:00,222
The scene where Lennon shows up at the hotel party

1095
01:06:00,406 --> 01:06:03,918
is one of the most well written scenes in the book. And it's

1096
01:06:03,934 --> 01:06:06,622
a throwaway scene. Yeah. So,

1097
01:06:06,806 --> 01:06:09,982
yeah, I'm gonna give it a two. I gave it a three. I'm kind of

1098
01:06:10,006 --> 01:06:13,630
right there with you. It has that forced friendship with the

1099
01:06:13,670 --> 01:06:17,054
women that we just hate to see. Yeah. Gwen is a

1100
01:06:17,062 --> 01:06:20,846
plot device. Graham is a plot device. George is a plot device.

1101
01:06:20,958 --> 01:06:24,718
Every other person in the story, besides maybe Storm,

1102
01:06:24,894 --> 01:06:28,046
is a plot device. Yeah. Memphis and all of his drama.

1103
01:06:28,158 --> 01:06:31,774
Yep. Unnecessary drama. We didn't even talk about it on the episode.

1104
01:06:31,822 --> 01:06:35,182
But Memphis, one of Memphis's baby mamas,

1105
01:06:35,326 --> 01:06:38,702
is this reality TV

1106
01:06:38,766 --> 01:06:42,158
star and it turns out that she actually is pregnant

1107
01:06:42,174 --> 01:06:44,926
with his kid. And then they decide that they're going to get engaged. Yeah.

1108
01:06:44,958 --> 01:06:48,666
And Skyler is in love with him. And she's beating

1109
01:06:48,698 --> 01:06:52,202
herself up because she's. Done so many horrible things to him. And just

1110
01:06:52,226 --> 01:06:55,754
the whole thing. She was engaged to his brother. Oh, my God.

1111
01:06:55,802 --> 01:06:59,674
They fucking left it out. Honestly, if you're not gonna do it right,

1112
01:06:59,762 --> 01:07:03,322
just don't fucking do it. Agreed. I think, again, I think that's what those other

1113
01:07:03,346 --> 01:07:06,714
books are about. But I am not invested

1114
01:07:06,762 --> 01:07:09,962
enough in Memphis or Skyler to care.

1115
01:07:10,066 --> 01:07:13,762
Yes, agreed. I could have been that invested in Storm.

1116
01:07:13,866 --> 01:07:17,202
Yes. Just because I think we would have gotten a tangled in tinsel type of

1117
01:07:17,226 --> 01:07:19,842
spicy book. Yes. I love that. Yes.

1118
01:07:19,906 --> 01:07:23,234
Yes. Storyline. Storyline. I'm going to

1119
01:07:23,242 --> 01:07:25,970
give a four. I gave it a four. Two. And it's just because it was

1120
01:07:26,010 --> 01:07:29,234
too long. Literally. My note says too long.

1121
01:07:29,322 --> 01:07:32,738
Sure. It. There was a lot of unnecessary. And I'm

1122
01:07:32,754 --> 01:07:35,858
reading another book right now while I just finished it when the moon hatched.

1123
01:07:35,954 --> 01:07:39,682
Yeah. It is too long. And there's so much unnecessary stuff that

1124
01:07:39,706 --> 01:07:43,204
happens and there's. There's no reason to put it in there at all.

1125
01:07:43,292 --> 01:07:46,612
It has nothing to move the plot. It's. It happens and

1126
01:07:46,636 --> 01:07:49,972
then nobody talks about it again. Yeah. And I hate that. So.

1127
01:07:49,996 --> 01:07:53,172
But I do really like that story. I like this story.

1128
01:07:53,276 --> 01:07:56,868
Yeah. Yeah. I think the premise of the story is a. Is a great idea

1129
01:07:56,964 --> 01:07:59,972
and I think it has. It's a big genre. Yeah,

1130
01:08:00,036 --> 01:08:03,140
absolutely. Yeah. A tattooed man who can sing. Yeah.

1131
01:08:03,220 --> 01:08:06,980
I enjoyed reading this book. Yeah. Like, truth be told,

1132
01:08:07,020 --> 01:08:09,588
I mean, as mad as I am at some of the pieces of it,

1133
01:08:09,644 --> 01:08:13,294
like, the story is good. I mean, it's a good.

1134
01:08:13,462 --> 01:08:16,590
It's a good premise. And for the most part,

1135
01:08:16,630 --> 01:08:19,822
it is executed well. I think that it would

1136
01:08:19,846 --> 01:08:23,726
have gotten higher rated on prose if she had broken

1137
01:08:23,758 --> 01:08:27,470
it up into multiple books and dived deeper into each of

1138
01:08:27,510 --> 01:08:29,810
these four year spans.

1139
01:08:30,630 --> 01:08:34,366
Like, if she had spent more time existing in each of those.

1140
01:08:34,518 --> 01:08:38,191
Like, the entire thing after her dad died. There was

1141
01:08:38,215 --> 01:08:41,967
a lot to explore there. Yeah. All of those things that were happening were.

1142
01:08:42,103 --> 01:08:45,659
Had they been done correctly as a standalone book,

1143
01:08:46,039 --> 01:08:49,583
would have been very interesting. All of those things that happened with

1144
01:08:49,671 --> 01:08:52,863
Skyler and Memphis and the recording and all the things. You could have made an

1145
01:08:52,871 --> 01:08:56,159
entire book about that. And it would have been interesting had you

1146
01:08:56,199 --> 01:09:00,031
done the proper character development from the beginning. Yes. So the story of this book,

1147
01:09:00,055 --> 01:09:03,503
I'm going to give it a 4 because I think that it had the capacity

1148
01:09:03,551 --> 01:09:07,176
to be a much better story. It did. Which of our authors

1149
01:09:07,208 --> 01:09:11,016
would you like to see rewrite this story? That is an excellent question.

1150
01:09:11,088 --> 01:09:14,840
Thank you so much for asking. I would like Trelawny Pucci to

1151
01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:18,440
rewrite the story. Yeah. Because she would fucking

1152
01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:22,580
crush this. It would have been funny and cute and.

1153
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:26,536
Yes. Yes. Yep. Yes. She's one of my favorites that we've done.

1154
01:09:26,688 --> 01:09:30,760
Me too. And, like, I basically know her. Oh, my God, you're practically famous.

1155
01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:34,332
I know. Overall. Overall, I'm gonna give it

1156
01:09:34,356 --> 01:09:37,036
a 3. I expected that from you.

1157
01:09:37,108 --> 01:09:38,000
Okay.

1158
01:09:40,020 --> 01:09:43,292
When I give my ratings, you guys can't see this. But when I give my

1159
01:09:43,316 --> 01:09:47,084
ratings, Nicole writes them down because she keeps track of them for social media.

1160
01:09:47,252 --> 01:09:49,080
And it's the most like.

1161
01:09:51,220 --> 01:09:54,620
Yep, I gave it a five.

1162
01:09:54,740 --> 01:09:58,188
Yeah. Just because even when I first recommended this to you into Broke, I gave

1163
01:09:58,204 --> 01:10:01,452
it 10 out of 10, even though it was too long. Even though there were

1164
01:10:01,476 --> 01:10:04,860
things I didn't like about it. I really like these

1165
01:10:04,900 --> 01:10:08,040
characters. Yeah. Lennon is one of

1166
01:10:08,420 --> 01:10:11,240
my top female characters, I think.

1167
01:10:11,860 --> 01:10:15,692
Okay. Yeah. But only because

1168
01:10:15,716 --> 01:10:18,876
of her relationship with Phoenix. Yeah. If it was. If she was in a nice,

1169
01:10:18,908 --> 01:10:21,240
healthy relationship, I don't want to read about it.

1170
01:10:21,620 --> 01:10:25,452
Sure. But because I think I just. There's something about Phoenix

1171
01:10:25,516 --> 01:10:29,804
and I think it is maybe feels nostalgic for me. Sure. That I

1172
01:10:29,892 --> 01:10:33,132
really enjoyed reading about them. And I could really. I saw myself a lot

1173
01:10:33,156 --> 01:10:36,548
in this book. I was just gonna say I think that their relationship

1174
01:10:36,644 --> 01:10:39,796
is really, really, really very

1175
01:10:39,868 --> 01:10:43,812
realistic. Yes, it's very, very realistic. I have. We have

1176
01:10:43,836 --> 01:10:47,540
all been in this type of toxic relationship, and I think

1177
01:10:47,580 --> 01:10:50,772
that is very easy. And that's probably why I liked it more

1178
01:10:50,876 --> 01:10:54,324
in that sec, like, after the high school, because it was much more relatable

1179
01:10:54,372 --> 01:10:57,460
at that point for me. Their dynamic of this

1180
01:10:57,500 --> 01:11:00,794
sort of, like, love hate. And to your point,

1181
01:11:00,882 --> 01:11:04,282
like, how she. You were like, oh, well, she really committed to the love hate.

1182
01:11:04,426 --> 01:11:07,594
That's real fucking life in most of these books. The enemies

1183
01:11:07,642 --> 01:11:10,090
to lovers goes from enemies to lovers to, like,

1184
01:11:10,130 --> 01:11:13,690
soulmates. Yes. They never have any more issues after that. They never

1185
01:11:13,730 --> 01:11:17,018
fight anymore after that. This book is very realistic of what

1186
01:11:17,074 --> 01:11:20,410
a true enemies to lovers look like. Yeah. These people went back

1187
01:11:20,450 --> 01:11:24,314
and forth constantly about how they felt about each other,

1188
01:11:24,482 --> 01:11:28,302
and especially at their ages because they're still only like,

1189
01:11:28,326 --> 01:11:32,110
23 years old when this. Yeah. I mean, so this is a

1190
01:11:32,150 --> 01:11:35,358
really, like, we've all fucking been here.

1191
01:11:35,494 --> 01:11:38,622
And I can completely understand why you

1192
01:11:38,646 --> 01:11:41,742
would be able to find yourself in this book. And I agree with you.

1193
01:11:41,766 --> 01:11:45,806
I think I could also see myself a lot in these characters. So if somebody

1194
01:11:45,838 --> 01:11:49,054
has this on their tbr, would you say to read it

1195
01:11:49,142 --> 01:11:52,770
or to trash it? I would ask them what else is on their tbr.

1196
01:11:57,010 --> 01:12:00,522
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I would

1197
01:12:00,546 --> 01:12:04,314
say read it. I recommend it. Yeah. Those sex scenes

1198
01:12:04,362 --> 01:12:07,370
really did it for me. Yeah. I have gone back to this book. It's still.

1199
01:12:07,410 --> 01:12:10,890
I only have it on Kindle Unlimited, and I keep it downloaded

1200
01:12:10,970 --> 01:12:14,602
so I can go back when I'm feeling like I need a little

1201
01:12:14,626 --> 01:12:17,498
something. Yeah. I love that for you. Yeah.

1202
01:12:17,674 --> 01:12:21,344
One of the only books that I go back to that Regularly. Oh, really?

1203
01:12:21,432 --> 01:12:25,152
Yeah. For a while I was going back to the Never King because

1204
01:12:25,176 --> 01:12:29,072
the vines still get me. Yeah. I have a

1205
01:12:29,256 --> 01:12:33,120
short book. I don't even know what it's called. It's not like a book book.

1206
01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:37,360
It's literally just like a little smutty piece. It's literally 25

1207
01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:41,040
pages long. It's not like there's no plot. It literally is

1208
01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:44,272
just. It's a good porn scene. It really is.

1209
01:12:44,376 --> 01:12:48,052
And that's always my go to. But you want to make the podcast

1210
01:12:48,116 --> 01:12:49,960
because it's not long. Yeah.

1211
01:12:52,940 --> 01:12:56,244
Well, these book. This book is not super accessible. It is on Kindle Unlimited.

1212
01:12:56,292 --> 01:12:59,732
You can buy it on Amazon, but that's really the only place that you

1213
01:12:59,756 --> 01:13:02,884
can find it otherwise. And again, I think it has something maybe to do

1214
01:13:02,892 --> 01:13:06,692
with Ashley Jade. Not. Yeah, she doesn't have a writing anymore.

1215
01:13:06,756 --> 01:13:10,804
Yeah. Yeah. So we want to thank Pagel, as always,

1216
01:13:10,972 --> 01:13:14,740
for our help with social media and Nicole, because Nicole has also

1217
01:13:14,780 --> 01:13:17,012
been. I've kind of. We've kind of let it go. I've kind of let it

1218
01:13:17,036 --> 01:13:20,150
go. All right. We're not thinking.

1219
01:13:20,730 --> 01:13:24,930
We're only thanking. We appreciate

1220
01:13:25,010 --> 01:13:28,658
her. She's put together just such a beautiful social media

1221
01:13:28,714 --> 01:13:31,522
page and we would love if you went and visited us there.

1222
01:13:31,706 --> 01:13:35,154
We are on TikTok and TikTok

1223
01:13:35,202 --> 01:13:39,794
and Instagram at booksletspod and online@booksletspodcast.com

1224
01:13:39,962 --> 01:13:43,730
we don't have a lot of information, unfortunately, about the author because she

1225
01:13:43,770 --> 01:13:47,254
does not have a extensive online presence.

1226
01:13:47,382 --> 01:13:50,934
A quick Google search of her just says Ashley Jade is a Wall Street

1227
01:13:51,022 --> 01:13:55,142
Journal, USA Today and top 20 bestselling Amazon author who craves

1228
01:13:55,206 --> 01:13:58,790
tackling different genres and tropes within romance. Her first

1229
01:13:58,830 --> 01:14:02,598
loves are new adult romance, contemporary romance, and romantic suspense.

1230
01:14:02,694 --> 01:14:06,422
But she also writes everything in between, including erotica and

1231
01:14:06,446 --> 01:14:09,830
dark romance. So we don't really know a ton about

1232
01:14:09,870 --> 01:14:14,008
her other than that, and we mentioned it in the last episode, but she

1233
01:14:14,064 --> 01:14:17,752
doesn't have like. Her Facebook website is not active any

1234
01:14:17,776 --> 01:14:21,352
longer and she doesn't have like a website website. So she

1235
01:14:21,376 --> 01:14:24,580
is on Instagram and you can follow her there if you want more on her.

1236
01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:28,040
All right, well, join us next week. We are reading,

1237
01:14:28,120 --> 01:14:31,688
recapping, and reviewing the oh so popular book

1238
01:14:31,744 --> 01:14:35,480
Lights Out. Nicole is absolutely. I cannot wait.

1239
01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:38,824
Yeah, I can't wait to talk to. You about that book. Yeah, I'm pretty excited

1240
01:14:38,872 --> 01:14:42,200
as well. I'm Amanda. I'm Nicole. And we

1241
01:14:42,240 --> 01:14:43,848
are book sluts. See you next time.